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Hitchgathering/2021

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Updated with all the proposal from the mailing list and minor corrections
== Date ==
[[User:Swaden|Swaden]] is proposing August 2th 2021 for the official beginning, following the [[Hitchgathering#Time|infos]] on the main page. As of now, there's a consensus for the beginning of August, so let's set this as an "official" date for now.
== Location ==
*Eastern Europe (why?)
*Switzerland or Sweden (because they have been very soft with their travel restrictions so far)
 
Set deadline for fixing a location is May 1st.
=== Wolimierz, Poland ===
==== Pros ====
* It seems like People there should be happy to host considering the general vibe there is anti-mask/anti-vaxx/anti-lockdown. So they're not likely to reject a hitchgathering due to covidof the festival.
* Plenty of space for camping on their festival grounds.
* Dry toilets are available
* There are no dumpsters really close, and the ones that are further away might not be very good (although Poland does hide some surprisingly plentiful diving).
* No swimming -- there is a pond on the Czech side for those who are quite determined, about 7 kilometers away.
* Multiple people who have been there or not expressed strong concern on the mailing list about the inclusiveness of the people there, along Poland as a country. Other people also said it was very nice and are supportive of the idea, see the mailing list for discussion and don't mix up Atelier Wolimierz and Stacja Wolimierz.
 
=== Łąków, Poland ===
 
Dama has another proposal, in part because of the above concerns:
 
A private plot of land in Łąków, Poland. The closest village is called Rudnica. It’s 47 km away from the German border. Our host would be a guy named Paweł, who I met in Wolimierz (the location of the other proposal). I don’t know him very well and I’ve never been to the location. I asked him about hosting the HG a couple of years ago, and called him today to see if he’d still be up for it. He agreed straight away, but seemed to be in a rush, so I couldn’t ask him everything I wanted to. He said to call again closer to the date of the HG. If this is a place people would consider then I can call again, or send a text message with some questions.
 
==== Pros ====
 
* Private land with permission from the owner.
* Paweł has agreed to two weeks at the beginning of August, he just asked that a couple of people come beforehand to set things up.
* Close to the German border (for those concerned about traveling through Poland).
* Space for up to 100 people. I mentioned that between 20-100 people would show up, he seemed fine with this.
* Less pressure to volunteer. It would still be nice to help out and do things, but (unlike Wolimierz) it isn’t an organized volunteer place.
* He said there’s definitely a place to swim on his land. Seeing the map, I’m not sure if he meant the little stream, or one of those little lakes (he mentioned both a river a lake during our conversation).
 
==== Cons ====
 
* Safety concerns due to Poland’s political actions against LGBTQ rights.
* Time limit of two weeks.
* I’ve never been there, I don’t know the owner very well (he seems very nice and easygoing, but I don’t know how reliable he is).
* I don’t know if there are any good dumpsters around.
* By deciding on a location early and spreading the news, I’d be a little worried if way too many showed up (something to ask Paweł about).
* I’m not sure about the current (or future) covid restrictions in Poland. Since it would be on private land, my main concern would be that Paweł would get in trouble for hosting people. Maybe we could agree on something beforehand in case this were to happen (i.e. if he got a fine).
 
=== Montpellier, France ===
 
Lu. has mentionned on the mailing list that it might be possible to be hosted at the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_to_Defend ZAD] du Lien near Montpellier.
 
==== Pros ====
 
* Lu. says the people here have plans for the summer so they might be interested. Helping will probably be needed.
* Plenty of space for camping.
* Easy dumpster diving at Montpellier.
 
==== Cons ====
 
* Possible evacuation by police.
 
=== Kinnaroden, Norway (Cape Nordkinn) ===
 
There is a small cabin at Europe's northest point Kinnaroden in Norway as mentionned by To.
 
==== Pros ====
 
* Dumpster diving possible next town.
* Beach close by.
* Fresh water available.
 
==== Cons ====
 
* Far from central Europe.
* Pretty isolated
 
=== Abisko, Sweden ===
 
There is a free camp site in the National Park as mentionned by To.
 
==== Pros ====
 
* Sweden never closed it's border due to COVID-19.
* Small dumpster close by and bigger one 40 km from there.
 
==== Cons ====
 
* …
==== Discussion ====
== Pre or post gatherings ==
C. proposed Kesselberg, an anarchist bastion in a forest in Germany for a pregathering. He said there is a group called [https://www.ecotopiabiketour.net/ Ecotopia] doing a bike tour and that we could meet with them. Some people of the mailing list are part of the organisation so communication is easy. Like he said in his mail, I think it's a good idea to have pregatherings so people can met in smaller groups and have already a little bit of connivance before reaching the main gathering. Doing this is nice but we need to coordinate correctly. --[[User:Swaden|Swaden]] ([[User talk:Swaden|talk]]) 18:47, 24 March 2021 (CET) We can organize easily small pregatherings at the infinity of forest cabins available in Switzerland, Sweden or Norway. == Online event == Some people have proposed the idea of conducting an online event for people not able to attend the gathering.

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