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==== Cons ====* Possible evacuation by police, it already happened once in October.* Some people expressed concerns about politicising the gathering too much, would this apply to holding it AT a ZAD?
* Possible evacuation by police.=== Scandinavia ===
→Location
*Switzerland or Sweden (because they have been very soft with their travel restrictions so far)
Set deadline for fixing a location is May 1st. Due to the situation, it might be smart to make a 'wish list' -- Plan A, Plan B, Plan C -- and then decide depending on travel situation.
=== Germany === ==== Langenwerder Island on the Dieksee, Germany ====
Copperring said:
"It is an old wharf building [https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?whereami=1&query=54.16352%2C10.52726#map=18/54.16352/10.52726 on an island in a lake], located in the north of Germany about 100 km south of the Danish border. The building has a front that can be pushed open, inside there are old boats they used to ship tourists around on the lake. From the newspapers and menus I found on the boat, they have not been in use for a good 20 years and the whole building looks more like a forgotten graveyard."
===== Pros =====
* on an island in a lake, how cool is that
* solid building, provides shelter regardless of the weather
===== Cons =====
* on an island in a lake , actually 120 meters to the closest shore. We must find/build/borrow a canoe or raft so we can arrange transport of food, gear and people.
* not super inclusive for people with disabilities
* Germany and it's its Covid restrictions, might be some trouble to hitchhike, or enter the country (however to me entering was never a problem when I said I was only in transit)* no permission, what are the risks?Some people call for a stable location for the main gathering since past wild camping gatherings even in pre-covid times caused difficulties of moving on the fly
=== Poland ===
==== Wolimierz, Poland ====
Dama suggests as a location for the gathering: [https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/50.95248/15.30663 Stacja Wolimierz]. An old train station that's been converted into a theatre and festival place. She says:<br>
:"I was a volunteer there in 2018. At the time I asked if they'd be up for allowing the Hitchgathering to happen there, and they said yes. We would probably have to volunteer a bit in exchange. They have their own festival there in July every year, so the beginning of August would probably be fine. I left the place on semi-awkward terms with the owners, so I wouldn't want to ask unless people really want to do it there."
===== Pros =====
* People there should be happy to host considering the vibe of the festival.
* Possibility for a big pregathering at Kesselberg and then hitching to Wolimierz as a big colourful flock of odd-birds
===== Cons =====
* There are no dumpsters really close, and the ones that are further away might not be very good (although Poland does hide some surprisingly plentiful diving).
* Multiple people who have been there or not expressed strong concern on the mailing list about the inclusiveness of the people there, along Poland as a country. Other people also said it was very nice and are supportive of the idea, see the mailing list for discussion and don't mix up Atelier Wolimierz and Stacja Wolimierz.
==== Łąków, Poland ====
Dama has another proposal, in part because of the above concerns:
A private plot of land in Łąków, Poland. The closest village is called Rudnica. It’s 47 km away from the German border. Our host would be a guy named Paweł, who I met in Wolimierz (the location of the other proposal). I don’t know him very well and I’ve never been to the location. I asked him about hosting the HG a couple of years ago, and called him today to see if he’d still be up for it. He agreed straight away, but seemed to be in a rush, so I couldn’t ask him everything I wanted to. He said to call again closer to the date of the HG. If this is a place people would consider then I can call again, or send a text message with some questions.
===== Pros =====
* Private land with permission from the owner.
* He said there’s definitely a place to swim on his land. Seeing the map, I’m not sure if he meant the little stream, or one of those little lakes (he mentioned both a river a lake during our conversation).
===== Cons =====
* Safety concerns due to Poland’s political actions against LGBTQ rights.
* Time limit of two weeks.Could maybe be negotiated in the moment?
* I’ve never been there, I don’t know the owner very well (he seems very nice and easygoing, but I don’t know how reliable he is).
* I don’t know if there are any good dumpsters around.
* By deciding on a location early and spreading the news, I’d be a little worried if way too many showed up (something to ask Paweł about).
* I’m not sure about the current (or future) covid restrictions in Poland. (Current restrictions as of mid to late March are favourable to people entering by hitchhiking.) Since it would be on private land, my main concern would be that Paweł would get in trouble for hosting people. Maybe we could agree on something beforehand in case this were to happen (i.e. if he got a fine).
=== France === ==== La ZAD du Lien near Montpellier, France ====
Lu. has mentionned on the mailing list that it might be possible to be hosted at the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_to_Defend ZAD] du Lien near Montpellier.
===== Pros =====
* Lu. says the people here have plans for the summer so they might be interested. Helping will probably be needed.
* Plenty of space for camping.
* Easy dumpster diving at Montpellier, about ten to fifteen kilometers away.(Maybe not great for hitching in and out.) ===== Cons =====
==== Kinnaroden, Norway (Cape Nordkinn) ====
There is a small cabin at Europe's northest point Kinnaroden in Norway as mentionned by To.
===== Pros =====
* Dumpster diving possible next town.
* Fresh water available.
===== Cons =====
* Far from central Europe.
* Pretty isolated
==== Abisko, Sweden ====
There is a free camp site in the National Park as mentionned mentioned by To.
===== Pros =====
* Sweden never closed it's border due to COVID-19.
* Small dumpster close by and bigger one 40 km from there.
===== Cons =====
* …Also very far from central Europe.
==== Discussion ====
