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Revision as of 04:12, 10 January 2011

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Hitchgathering 2011
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Hitchgathering 2011 is the temporary title for the fourth edition of the annual European hitchhiking festival.

Latest News

We are looking for new suggestions to have a voting soon! A new deadline will be set shortly, so hurry up :)

We are working on Evaluation of the 6810. Add your comments here: http://hitchwiki.org/en/Hitchgathering/2011/Evaluation

Deadline

Let's set a date for the next one and from there, go back in time and set a couple of deadlines for stuff to get done.

  1. Decide the place: end of january 2011
  2. The gathering: 5/8/11


Comments

  • 5 August is fine, it's a Friday and in context with the previous versions. Pro! --Platschi 16:15, 26 September 2010 (CEST)
  • We tried to get the location fixed by 15 December but seemingly need more time. New suggestion end of January. --Astikain 04:01, 10 January 2011 (CET)

Location Hunting

Have requirements for the suggestion of places

  • Person that suggests a spot becomes responsible on setting up a team to organize it there.
  • Pros and cons
  • Central or more adventurous destination?
  • propose a specific location, not a country (see example)

If you have a place where you know 100-150 hitchhikers can be hosted and you can take care of making sure there is local support (also just by finding someone locally that wants to take care of this part), please, list the location. :)

Suggestions

For now, let's display the first suggestions first.

Bristol -- xo

Pros

  • 100-150 hh can easily be hosted in squat like The Red Factory or other, a squat could even be open if needed.
  • There is also enough food for everyone in the large population of dumpster in the city.
  • Most of the Noborder activist in Calais are people from Bristol, as most hitch-hiker would pass by Calais maybe some action in collaboration could be made.
  • Huge number of contact (including local media) and local support with individual and different group.
  • a lot of local groups are interested in the project from the few talk I had
  • one benefit gig could be easily be made on the friday night to raise money for food and the diverse expense during the week end, even free for the hitch hiker. it would be a good ocasion to comunicate and atract people outside of our closed circuit comunity.
  • I'm on it! and ther was 2 other people from bristol at the last hitch gathering
  • The beer is great, and you're supposed to drink it warm (which we WILL do)
  • We could cooperate with Mark Boyle´s Freeconomy community and arrange quality program with them (artists, free shops, veggie kitchen etc)

Cons

  • UK Immigration polities and visa issue
Worse than Schengen? Anyway, people going to UK HHing must also get Schengen pass... --Sitarane
  • You've got to cross the channel
  • HH sucks in Britain.
    • What a load of bullshit, I've done over 60,000 km in the UK and it works, even for someone well over the age of the average hitchhiker. See the table below! Prino 22:38, 29 September 2010 (CEST)
   +------+---------------------------+---------------------------+---------------------------+
   |      | Waits <= 1 hour           | Waits > 1 hour            | Total                     |
   |      +------+---------+----------+------+---------+----------+------+---------+----------+
   | Cnty |    # |    Time | Avg Wait |    # |    Time | Avg Wait |    # |    Time | Avg Wait |
   +------+------+---------+----------+------+---------+----------+------+---------+----------+
   | GB   |  471 |  210.17 |  0:26:47 |  138 |  242.24 |  1:45:23 |  609 |  452.41 |  0:44:36 |
   +------+------+---------+----------+------+---------+----------+------+---------+----------+
  • Rain
  • Expensive
    • not as mush as Paris, and for participant expense should be limited to their own consumption off cider
  • Doesn't qualify as "central for a big gathering" nor "far and more adventurous". It's far and boring.
    • that's a weird conception of boring, I've never consider hitch hiking boring especially when having to hitch a boat
  • Beer suck
    • not just beer cider as well...

Lyon --Sitarane

Pros

  • There's that place that looks cute, I'll go and check it out this week-end probably. --Sitarane

Parc de MiribelMap, Website

  • For some reasons that I can't begin to understand, travelers love France. It can attract many people.

Cons

  • France again? We already had Paris!
  • French drivers have too much testosterone
  • Too much in the west
  • Too expensive
  • Schengen...

Nordics --atopia

  • Nordic countries refer to Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland and Iceland (Scandinavia is without the latter two) --Astikain 04:10, 10 January 2011 (CET)

Pros

  • A new+missing geographical direction of Europe (888:West, 789:East, 6810:South, -> 5811:North)
  • A different type of setting: we had beach-gatherings for the last two times
    • In Scandinavia both urban and rural camping works well
  • Another cultural part of Europe (compared to Italy, France vs. Portugal)
  • Hardly any language barrier for English speakers
  • Easy to hitchhike (very good in south, slower in Swedish/Norwegian/Finnish -Lapland) And countries where HH would get a lot of spread in the media - and the purpose of promoting HH would help!!!
  • The privilege to camp wild for a day in most places
  • Can include ferry/boat hitchhiking
  • Wide & good everyman's rights
  • Very cool nature more north you go
  • Very beautiful, and a lot of places to camp!
  • Could get sponsored, and camp close to one of Turistforeningens cabbins (Norway) - toilets, showers etc.
  • A lot of very beautiful beaches/mountains.
  • Drinkable water (And if no toilet around, there's always a mountain with small rivers and the best water in the world)
  • I could get a team together on the westcoast of Norway! :)

Cons

  • Mosquitos?
   -Easy to avoid.
   -But still annyoing. 
  • Unstable weather!
  • Too expensive (!!!!!!) (But easy to get sponsored with free food/supplies)
  • Schengen
  • No public beer drinking in cities
  • No places + local contacts yet (but we do know some sweet folks from Scandinavia)
    • \o_ one here from FI. There are plenty of good places, esp. around the countryside. And I have even more contacts. We would also love to bring some life to our almost not existing anymore "HH-club". -Mikael 18:50, 23 November 2010 (CET)
    • A lot of places, campings and even big tents, easy to arrange very cheap.

Comments

  • let's have a 888ish meeting again: it's about time for an easy destination as hitchhiking is best promoted by many hitchhikers
    • Hitchhiking is not too popular around Scandinavia, but it works. These countries are a good choice if we wish to promote.
  • Estonia has a "Scandinavian feeling" and is in the north, but is a lot cheaper. I feel that a huge concern about the real Scandinavia is that it's just way too expensive. Hhikers usually know how to get around with few money, but there always comes something up you need buy/pay for.
  • In Finland there are a lot of free places to camp, either with facilities (have to book early) or just anywhere in the nature. --Astikain 04:10, 10 January 2011 (CET)

Bulgaria --Boyan

Quite big national hitchhiking society. Local support is a snap. Hitching is a blast. Exact location: The Black Sea, Kara Dere (near the city of Biala)

Coords.: 42.892231,27.899687

Have a look at Pictures of Bulgaria

Pros

  • huge remote beach
  • water supply from a spring on the beach (The issue of drinking water: There is a natural spring right on the beach. The only insignificant con is that the nice camping areas in the forest are a bit further on the beach on a 15 mins walk from the spring. But 10 liter tubes do a great job and daily "trips" are just a walk on the beach)
  • perfect shade, as the beach borders with a marvelous forest, where it's cool all day long and in the night it's not windy and sandy
  • people there are generally nice
  • cheap!
  • equally near to (between) the two biggest cities (Varna, Burgas) on the coast line.
  • close to turkey
  • small "bar"(caravan) for beer, fish&chips, etc. on one end of the beach
  • few to none about the mosquito issue

Cons

  • 40 mins walk on a dirt road to the nearest village for food supply (quite easy and pleasant though)
  • project for closing the area and building an "Eco Village" (decision and deadline unknown yet)
  • language barrier?
    • I guess there are as many hhikers who don't speak Bulgarian as hhikers who didn't speak Portuguese. And I guess there are a lot more Russian speakers in Bulgaria than English speakers in Spain.
    • language barrier is absolutely no problem, everybody knows what the thumb means, also city's names on road signs are nearly always in Cyrillic and Latin.
  • Many campers in summer
  • Forget about dumpster-diving here

Lithuania --Mikael

Pros

  • Active HH-club(s)/people. Good connections by Mikael. Actually it seems we would have multiple places where we could arrange this, and some people ready to arrange stuff.
  • Lots of similar events already arranged (in countryside mostly), a good coverage of known good places
  • Relatively cheap country
  • Might be easier for Russians & Belarusians to get a visa? (not sure)
    • Nah,it's everywhere the same shitty procedure throughout Schengen. Only exception might be Finland visa for people from Karelia/Petersburg area.
  • Curonian Spit
  • Easy to reach from any direction really

Cons

  • No public beer drinking in cities
  • HH is already "normalized", and promoting would be of no use.

Berlin --???

The Netherlands --???

New proposals

add your suggestion?!