https://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Germany&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:Germany - Revision history2024-03-28T18:48:03ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.32.3https://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Germany&diff=70024&oldid=prevPlatschi at 00:53, 7 June 20132013-06-07T00:53:46Z<p></p>
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</table>Platschihttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Germany&diff=70021&oldid=prevGuaka at 16:48, 6 June 20132013-06-06T16:48:18Z<p></p>
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</table>Guakahttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Germany&diff=70018&oldid=prevGuaka at 16:44, 6 June 20132013-06-06T16:44:55Z<p></p>
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</table>Guakahttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Germany&diff=70017&oldid=prevCRCulver at 14:35, 6 June 20132013-06-06T14:35:36Z<p></p>
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</table>CRCulverhttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Germany&diff=58959&oldid=prevMrTweek at 13:18, 1 February 20122012-02-01T13:18:34Z<p></p>
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</table>Kriechstromhttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Germany&diff=58957&oldid=prevKriechstrom at 12:05, 1 February 20122012-02-01T12:05:31Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I tried to unify the highway/motorway differences but soon figured out that it's not so easy since I would like people speaking BE and AE to understand it. I found some discussions in a German dictionary community about this and as native speakers there suggested that the word autobahn has indeed been found in British and American English dictionaries I introduced the word here once in the beginning and used it afterwards. Does anybody mind? --[[User:Kriechstrom|Kriechstrom]] 12:57, 1 February 2012 (CET)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I tried to unify the highway/motorway differences but soon figured out that it's not so easy since I would like people speaking BE and AE to understand it. I found some discussions in a German dictionary community about this and as native speakers there suggested that the word autobahn has indeed been found in British and American English dictionaries I introduced the word here once in the beginning and used it afterwards. Does anybody mind? --[[User:Kriechstrom|Kriechstrom]] 12:57, 1 February 2012 (CET)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Some other stuff I'd like to change:</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* I found out that for distances above 200 km in Germany my average speed (door to door) almost always is 60 km/h to 70 km/h. This helps planning a lot. Can someone verify?</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* I agree that the service station restaurants are expensive but I do not agree that the food quality is low. It is average sometimes when it's just pre-fabricated food. But low food quality for me means bad hygiene or really bad taste and that's not the case.</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* When googling German rest areas (not service stations) I found some services promoting errrr... opportunities to meet people with certain interests there. I'm sure it's nothing the average hitchhiker is looking for. As I rarely get dropped off at rest areas I have no clue about this. Has anybody had troubles with this? Should we add it to the rest area infos?</ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>Kriechstromhttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Germany&diff=58956&oldid=prevKriechstrom at 11:57, 1 February 20122012-02-01T11:57:08Z<p></p>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Hello, I found the Germany article to become a bit cluttered because many informations concerning one topic were added at different places. Thus I restructured it a bit in the hope that the overview is better now. I also added some more signs to make the first time hitchhiking in Germany easier. Hope it is fine for all. Please tell me here if I missed something. Thanks, best regards --[[User:Kriechstrom|Kriechstrom]] 12:57, 1 February 2012 (CET)</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Did I miss something? --[[User:Kriechstrom|Kriechstrom]] 12:57, 1 February 2012 (CET)</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">==== The word autobahn ====</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I tried to unify the highway/motorway differences but soon figured out that it's not so easy since I would like people speaking BE and AE to understand it. I found some discussions in a German dictionary community about this and as native speakers there suggested that the word autobahn has indeed been found in British and American English dictionaries I introduced the word here once in the beginning and used it afterwards. Does anybody mind? --[[User:Kriechstrom|Kriechstrom]] 12:57, 1 February 2012 (CET)</ins></div></td></tr>
</table>Kriechstromhttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Germany&diff=58829&oldid=prevMrTweek at 15:46, 28 January 20122012-01-28T15:46:50Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hello, I propose to link the maps section to the article [[Maps#Germany]] and update the list there. It is easier to maintain one list instead of two. Does anybody mind? Regards --[[User:Kriechstrom|Kriechstrom]] 10:42, 27 January 2012 (CET)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hello, I propose to link the maps section to the article [[Maps#Germany]] and update the list there. It is easier to maintain one list instead of two. Does anybody mind? Regards --[[User:Kriechstrom|Kriechstrom]] 10:42, 27 January 2012 (CET)</div></td></tr>
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</table>MrTweekhttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Germany&diff=58817&oldid=prevKriechstrom at 09:42, 27 January 20122012-01-27T09:42:57Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: I agree that hitching in Germany is not always perfect, but in which case can we mark a country to be {{very good}}, then? It should be possible to mark something as {{very good}}, otherwise the category is obsolete. And as far as I can say, Germany is among the best hitching countries. --[[User:Kb|Kb]] 16:26, 26 June 2010 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: I agree that hitching in Germany is not always perfect, but in which case can we mark a country to be {{very good}}, then? It should be possible to mark something as {{very good}}, otherwise the category is obsolete. And as far as I can say, Germany is among the best hitching countries. --[[User:Kb|Kb]] 16:26, 26 June 2010 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Hello, I propose to link the maps section to the article [[Maps#Germany]] and update the list there. It is easier to maintain one list instead of two. Does anybody mind? Regards --[[User:Kriechstrom|Kriechstrom]] 10:42, 27 January 2012 (CET)</ins></div></td></tr>
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