https://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Netherlands&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:Netherlands - Revision history2024-03-28T13:13:20ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.32.3https://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Netherlands&diff=70515&oldid=prevFverhart at 20:12, 16 July 20132013-07-16T20:12:19Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> Gas stations (along highways) shouldn't be an issue though, they are generally public space rented from the state anyway. As long as you behave I can't think of a reason to be send away.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> Gas stations (along highways) shouldn't be an issue though, they are generally public space rented from the state anyway. As long as you behave I can't think of a reason to be send away.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Hitchhiking in the Netherlands is allowed everywhere. However, people without vehicles or in or on vehicles not built for driving over a certain speed, 60 or 80 kmh, are not allowed to enter motorways and to a certain extent, also on national roads which are marked with the blue rectangular sign with a car on it. So in practice, you are allowed to hitchhike everywhere, but you cannot do it on motorways and most national road as enforced laws prohibit you to be there; you are considered to be a pedestrian. This is pretty much the same all over Europe in regards to motorways. Apart from those places where there is a prohibition for pedestrians, there are other situations where police might disagree with thumbing. The main concern should always be traffic safety. </ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>Fverharthttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Netherlands&diff=70499&oldid=prevAvee at 19:39, 15 July 20132013-07-15T19:39:58Z<p></p>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> Hitch-hiking is not illegal in NL, it is however illegal to walk on the highway and illegal to stop on the highway (and the highway starts at the sign on the ramp!). You're quite likely to be fined when caught walking past the highway sign and drivers might be unwilling to stop on the ramp. The hard shoulder is called 'emergency lane' in dutch and treated as such... Personally, I won't break the rules or annoy other drivers just to pick a hitch-hiker and I reckon this is a common attitude in NL.</ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>Aveehttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Netherlands&diff=62855&oldid=prevTobip at 08:41, 2 August 20122012-08-02T08:41:23Z<p></p>
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</table>Tobiphttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Netherlands&diff=28893&oldid=prevMrTweek at 19:58, 6 December 20082008-12-06T19:58:15Z<p></p>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">::::::::: Well, whatever. Check this: [http://yoshi.mega2000.de/~philipp/checklang.phps]. Just copy it to your webdir and call it index.php or something. It will redirect dutch and belgian users to index-nl.html and all others to index-en.html. You can change these filenames of course. Let me know if that works :) --[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 09:49, 5 December 2008 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>MrTweekhttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Netherlands&diff=28892&oldid=prevGuaka at 19:37, 6 December 20082008-12-06T19:37:34Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:::::::: Thank you Philip for offering this help. However, I'm making a sidenote: such assisting makes me as </del>the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">editor of my website more dependent </del>of <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">others, which has some disadvantages too..</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">do you get my point? --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] 09:19, 5 December 2008 (UTC)</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">I proposed a Dutch hitchwiki before</ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">but I don</ins>'<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">t think I will be very active there myself</ins>. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Nor will Prino </ins>I <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">think</ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">but it could be good. </ins>I <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">guesstimate it takes </ins>MrTweek <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">about </ins>5 <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">minutes to set up </ins>the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Dutch version </ins>of <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Hitchwiki</ins>.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:::::: Well, whatever. Check this: </del>[http://<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">yoshi</del>.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">mega2000.de</del>/<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">~philipp/checklang.phps</del>]<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">. Just copy </del>it <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">to your webdir and call it index.php </del>or <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">something. It will redirect dutch and belgian users to index-nl</del>.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">html and all others to index-en.html. You can change these filenames of course. Let me know if that works :</del>) <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">--[[User:MrTweek|MrTweek]] 09:49, 5 December 2008 (UTC)</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">At </ins>[http://<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">transip</ins>.<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">nl</ins>/ <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">transip</ins>] it<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'s 5 </ins>or <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">6 euro (ex</ins>. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">VAT</ins>) <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">per year for <tt></ins>.nl<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><</ins>/<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">tt> </ins>and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">so far their service </ins>has <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">been excellent</ins>. [[User:<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Guaka</ins>|<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">guaka</ins>]] 19:37, 6 December 2008 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Guakahttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Netherlands&diff=28890&oldid=prevMrTweek at 16:23, 6 December 20082008-12-06T16:23:15Z<p></p>
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</table>MrTweekhttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Netherlands&diff=28886&oldid=prevFverhart at 19:37, 5 December 20082008-12-05T19:37:37Z<p></p>
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</table>Fverharthttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Netherlands&diff=28874&oldid=prevMrTweek at 09:49, 5 December 20082008-12-05T09:49:23Z<p></p>
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</table>MrTweekhttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Netherlands&diff=28873&oldid=prevMrTweek at 09:40, 5 December 20082008-12-05T09:40:17Z<p></p>
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</table>MrTweekhttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Netherlands&diff=28872&oldid=prevFverhart at 09:19, 5 December 20082008-12-05T09:19:47Z<p></p>
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