https://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Kundrt&feed=atom&action=historyUser talk:Kundrt - Revision history2024-03-29T10:54:01ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.32.3https://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Kundrt&diff=84322&oldid=prevKundrt at 13:00, 25 August 20162016-08-25T13:00:28Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Hi. I think that Kundrt isn't very active anymore here, let's see! Your question inspired me to figure out how he made this map. One way to log your trips is on www.hitchlog.com. It's a kind of hh diary which is quite nice. Check that site. And now for the map Kundrt made. It's made in Google Fusion Styles and the input is a KML file. This means you need to create a KML file with your trips (lines) in it. There are different ways to do it, this is how I did it. You need: Google Earth, Google My Maps, Google Drive and Google Fusion Maps. All of these are for free, the first is an installable program, the other are webbased services (or websites). In Google My Maps you can draw lines. In the past the number of lines was limited to about 18 or so (if you drew more, My Maps would not always display them all). You can save your map in Google Drive. Since you need to draw more lines than fit in one Google My Maps map, you need to make more, so name them wisely. E.g. I draw 15 lines in each map, and save them as "hitchhike trips 001-015", "hitchhike trips 016-30" etc. If you have drawn all lines and saved everything, you can export each individual map "as KML" from Google My Maps. You can load these KML files in Google Earth, which allows you to save all of them (merged) as one (big) KML file. You need then in Google Drive to add Google Fusion Tables app. The way to do this is explained here https://support.google.com/fusiontables/answer/2527132?hl=en&topic=2573107&ctx=topic Once you have installed the app to Google Drive, you can start Google Fusion Tables app. When you do this, you will be prompted to "Import new table", this is where you choose the merged big KML file. Pfew!!!! It's not so easy and a lot of work.. obviously but the result looks slick. Thanks to your question, I found this all out, and I just created my own cool map: https://fusiontables.googleusercontent.com/embedviz?q=select+col2+from+1kkhyp-UjobDola_820_lqlhlRrNJ164qbpfSrucX&viz=MAP&h=false&lat=51.28058058188785&lng=14.601520124999979&t=1&z=5&l=col2&y=2&tmplt=2&hml=KML How much work was this? Well, it took many hours / days to draw the 369 lines in my map. It took an hour to save, copy, merge, save and import everything... Note, my map contains my trip until 09.2006, or about 35% of my total mileage --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 01:57, 17 August 2016 (CEST)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Hi. I think that Kundrt isn't very active anymore here, let's see! Your question inspired me to figure out how he made this map. One way to log your trips is on www.hitchlog.com. It's a kind of hh diary which is quite nice. Check that site. And now for the map Kundrt made. It's made in Google Fusion Styles and the input is a KML file. This means you need to create a KML file with your trips (lines) in it. There are different ways to do it, this is how I did it. You need: Google Earth, Google My Maps, Google Drive and Google Fusion Maps. All of these are for free, the first is an installable program, the other are webbased services (or websites). In Google My Maps you can draw lines. In the past the number of lines was limited to about 18 or so (if you drew more, My Maps would not always display them all). You can save your map in Google Drive. Since you need to draw more lines than fit in one Google My Maps map, you need to make more, so name them wisely. E.g. I draw 15 lines in each map, and save them as "hitchhike trips 001-015", "hitchhike trips 016-30" etc. If you have drawn all lines and saved everything, you can export each individual map "as KML" from Google My Maps. You can load these KML files in Google Earth, which allows you to save all of them (merged) as one (big) KML file. You need then in Google Drive to add Google Fusion Tables app. The way to do this is explained here https://support.google.com/fusiontables/answer/2527132?hl=en&topic=2573107&ctx=topic Once you have installed the app to Google Drive, you can start Google Fusion Tables app. When you do this, you will be prompted to "Import new table", this is where you choose the merged big KML file. Pfew!!!! It's not so easy and a lot of work.. obviously but the result looks slick. Thanks to your question, I found this all out, and I just created my own cool map: https://fusiontables.googleusercontent.com/embedviz?q=select+col2+from+1kkhyp-UjobDola_820_lqlhlRrNJ164qbpfSrucX&viz=MAP&h=false&lat=51.28058058188785&lng=14.601520124999979&t=1&z=5&l=col2&y=2&tmplt=2&hml=KML How much work was this? Well, it took many hours / days to draw the 369 lines in my map. It took an hour to save, copy, merge, save and import everything... Note, my map contains my trip until 09.2006, or about 35% of my total mileage --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 01:57, 17 August 2016 (CEST)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Kundrthttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Kundrt&diff=84224&oldid=prevFverhart at 23:57, 16 August 20162016-08-16T23:57:35Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hi Kundrt. Thanks for a very useful pages. Happy for your courage to travel by hitch - hiking. We love this kind of travel but would love to have some kind of a map tracking our yourneys and we just love your one. How can we proceed, please? --[[User:Mik013|Mik013]] 17:30, 16 August 2016 (CET)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hi Kundrt. Thanks for a very useful pages. Happy for your courage to travel by hitch - hiking. We love this kind of travel but would love to have some kind of a map tracking our yourneys and we just love your one. How can we proceed, please? --[[User:Mik013|Mik013]] 17:30, 16 August 2016 (CET)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Hi. I think that Kundrt isn't very active anymore here, let's see! Your question inspired me to figure out how he made this map. One way to log your trips is on www.hitchlog.com. It's a kind of hh diary which is quite nice. Check that site. And now for the map Kundrt made. It's made in Google Fusion Styles and the input is a KML file. This means you need to create a KML file with your trips (lines) in it. There are different ways to do it, this is how I did it. You need: Google Earth, Google My Maps, Google Drive and Google Fusion Maps. All of these are for free, the first is an installable program, the other are webbased services (or websites). In Google My Maps you can draw lines. In the past the number of lines was limited to about 18 or so (if you drew more, My Maps would not always display them all). You can save your map in Google Drive. Since you need to draw more lines than fit in one Google My Maps map, you need to make more, so name them wisely. E.g. I draw 15 lines in each map, and save them as "hitchhike trips 001-015", "hitchhike trips 016-30" etc. If you have drawn all lines and saved everything, you can export each individual map "as KML" from Google My Maps. You can load these KML files in Google Earth, which allows you to save all of them (merged) as one (big) KML file. You need then in Google Drive to add Google Fusion Tables app. The way to do this is explained here https://support.google.com/fusiontables/answer/2527132?hl=en&topic=2573107&ctx=topic Once you have installed the app to Google Drive, you can start Google Fusion Tables app. When you do this, you will be prompted to "Import new table", this is where you choose the merged big KML file. Pfew!!!! It's not so easy and a lot of work.. obviously but the result looks slick. Thanks to your question, I found this all out, and I just created my own cool map: https://fusiontables.googleusercontent.com/embedviz?q=select+col2+from+1kkhyp-UjobDola_820_lqlhlRrNJ164qbpfSrucX&viz=MAP&h=false&lat=51.28058058188785&lng=14.601520124999979&t=1&z=5&l=col2&y=2&tmplt=2&hml=KML How much work was this? Well, it took many hours / days to draw the 369 lines in my map. It took an hour to save, copy, merge, save and import everything... Note, my map contains my trip until 09.2006, or about 35% of my total mileage --[[User:Fverhart|Fverhart]] ([[User talk:Fverhart|talk]]) 01:57, 17 August 2016 (CEST)</ins></div></td></tr>
</table>Fverharthttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Kundrt&diff=84216&oldid=prevMik013 at 16:39, 16 August 20162016-08-16T16:39:08Z<p></p>
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</table>Mik013https://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Kundrt&diff=78052&oldid=prevPrino at 21:29, 25 November 20142014-11-25T21:29:23Z<p></p>
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</table>Prinohttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Kundrt&diff=77963&oldid=prevBojslo at 16:46, 15 November 20142014-11-15T16:46:54Z<p></p>
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</table>Bojslohttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Kundrt&diff=77216&oldid=prevKundrt at 17:22, 21 September 20142014-09-21T17:22:30Z<p></p>
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</table>Kundrthttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Kundrt&diff=77206&oldid=prevFverhart at 20:02, 20 September 20142014-09-20T20:02:13Z<p></p>
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</table>Fverharthttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Kundrt&diff=77193&oldid=prevCRCulver at 13:59, 20 September 20142014-09-20T13:59:13Z<p></p>
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</table>CRCulverhttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Kundrt&diff=77192&oldid=prevCRCulver at 13:58, 20 September 20142014-09-20T13:58:40Z<p></p>
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</table>CRCulverhttps://hitchwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Kundrt&diff=68127&oldid=prevXkomczax at 21:08, 16 January 20132013-01-16T21:08:01Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hi Kundrt, thanks for your contributions and also for inciting me to fix the top left :) [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 00:34, 29 October 2011 (CEST)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hi Kundrt, thanks for your contributions and also for inciting me to fix the top left :) [[User:Guaka|guaka]] 00:34, 29 October 2011 (CEST)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: Hi! I thank you for this hitchwiki, it's simply great! And I should start to do something here earlier... -[[User:Kundrt|Kundrt]] 16:54, 29 October 2011 (CEST)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: Hi! I thank you for this hitchwiki, it's simply great! And I should start to do something here earlier... -[[User:Kundrt|Kundrt]] 16:54, 29 October 2011 (CEST)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== Na Benzině za Prahou ==</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Tak jsem si tě našel ;-) Ano, jsem to já, takový ten co tam s vámi stál na Benzině za Prahou. Nakonec jsem odjel cca. deset minut po vás s luxusním přípojem téměř bez čekání až do konečné destinace. Rád jsem tě poznal, snad se ještě někdy někde potkáme. Bude-li čas a chuť, můžeme se po tvém návratu klidně někde sejít. Hodně štěstí během současné cesty i těch budoucích ;-) --[[User:Xkomczax|Xkomczax]] ([[User talk:Xkomczax|talk]]) 22:08, 16 January 2013 (CET)</ins></div></td></tr>
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